Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:16:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:16:17 -0500 Received: from mark.mielke.cc ([216.209.85.42]:25868 "EHLO mark.mielke.cc") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:16:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:33:25 -0500 From: Mark Mielke To: Rob Wilkens Cc: Kurt Garloff , Linux kernel list Subject: Re: Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Message-ID: <20030112033325.GA14644@mark.mielke.cc> References: <7BFCE5F1EF28D64198522688F5449D5A03C0F4@xchangeserver2.storigen.com> <1042250324.1278.18.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> <20030111020738.GC9373@work.bitmover.com> <1042251202.1259.28.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> <20030111021741.GF9373@work.bitmover.com> <1042252717.1259.51.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> <20030111214437.GD9153@nbkurt.casa-etp.nl> <1042322012.1034.6.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> <20030111222619.GG9153@nbkurt.casa-etp.nl> <1042327403.1033.71.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1042327403.1033.71.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2427 Lines: 52 On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 06:23:23PM -0500, Rob Wilkens wrote: > On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 17:26, Kurt Garloff wrote: > > It is presumptuous. Very much so. > I'll accept that on face value, and take your comments five comments as > good pieces of information which I'll comment only briefly on. Also take into account that your claim to faim -- vxWorks, a real time commercial operating system, may not of the same calibre as Linux. Why do I doubt the calibre of vxWorks? People I trust who work on RT systems have told me that in many cases, products with RT requirements can perform better on Linux, than on vxWorks. (Better meaning managing a higher capacity without significant side effects) For your suggestion that writing an operating system is not hard -- I agree with your chosen qualification of 'a'. Most anybody who passes 1st year in CS at university can complete 'a' DOS-like operating system. Not just anybody could take this operating system to the next step in less than a year. I consider Linux several steps above DOS. Also, FYI, most of the patches that I see coming through here are patches to *other* people's code, usually code that has not existed more than a few months. Which doesn't mean that Linus' code is flawless. Just -- evolution has a price. Sometimes bad, inefficient, or last generation code must be heavily maintained, or thrown completely out, to be replaced by code that itself may contain bugs. Since this is "Linux-devel", and not "Linux-stable", I don't see how you could expect anything else. How many patches do you see for Linux-2.0.x, or Linux-2.2.x? You'll note that the majority are for Linux-2.5.x and then Linux-2.4.x. Do the math. Figure it out. mark -- mark@mielke.cc/markm@ncf.ca/markm@nortelnetworks.com __________________________ . . _ ._ . . .__ . . ._. .__ . . . .__ | Neighbourhood Coder |\/| |_| |_| |/ |_ |\/| | |_ | |/ |_ | | | | | | \ | \ |__ . | | .|. |__ |__ | \ |__ | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... http://mark.mielke.cc/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/