Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754359AbbDOGyU (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Apr 2015 02:54:20 -0400 Received: from mail-vn0-f43.google.com ([209.85.216.43]:39862 "EHLO mail-vn0-f43.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751652AbbDOGyI (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Apr 2015 02:54:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20150413190350.GA9485@kroah.com> <8738434yjk.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> <20150413194217.GA10837@kroah.com> <20150413202233.GR889@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 08:54:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 From: Richard Weinberger To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Al Viro , Greg Kroah-Hartman , "Eric W. Biederman" , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Arnd Bergmann , One Thousand Gnomes , Tom Gundersen , Jiri Kosina , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Daniel Mack , David Herrmann , Djalal Harouni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 903 Lines: 22 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote: >> We had been there before. To paraphrase another... meticulously honorable >> person, "if you didn't want something relied upon, why have you put it into the >> kernel?" Said person is on the record as having no problem whatsoever with >> adding dependencies to the bottom of userland stack. > > It appears that, if kdbus is merged, upstream udev may end up requiring it: > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html Why so surprised? kdbus will be a major hard-dependency for every non-trivial userland. Like cgroups... -- Thanks, //richard -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/