Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:38:18 +0200
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1
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On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:39:22AM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> 
> > I don't understand.  You can not like the D-Bus model (and accordingly
> > the X11 model), 
> 
> I thought that the general hatred level of the X11 "model" and the 
> protocol lead to al the efforts to reimplement this properly ... in 
> userspace (for example Wayland, right?).
> 
> I don't think anyone was ever seriously suggesting "X11 model is broken, 
> so let's push it to kernel" ... ?

Ok, fine, it's a broken metaphore, see Havoc's email for why I brought
that up here.  It's the issue that a stateful bus is required for
applications that is the main point I'm trying to get across.

thanks,

greg k-h
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