Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755521AbbDOJql (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Apr 2015 05:46:41 -0400 Received: from mail.skyhub.de ([78.46.96.112]:60800 "EHLO mail.skyhub.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752630AbbDOJqc (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Apr 2015 05:46:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 11:44:11 +0200 From: Borislav Petkov To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: Richard Weinberger , Andy Lutomirski , Al Viro , "Eric W. Biederman" , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Arnd Bergmann , One Thousand Gnomes , Tom Gundersen , Jiri Kosina , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Daniel Mack , David Herrmann , Djalal Harouni Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 Message-ID: <20150415094410.GB2282@pd.tnic> References: <8738434yjk.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> <20150413194217.GA10837@kroah.com> <20150413202233.GR889@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20150415084812.GG16381@kroah.com> <552E28C2.8070409@nod.at> <20150415092034.GA17680@kroah.com> <20150415092149.GB2310@pd.tnic> <20150415092713.GA17898@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20150415092713.GA17898@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1270 Lines: 34 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:27:13AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:21:49AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:20:34AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > > > We're all forced to use cgroups, systemd, udev unless we want to have busybox > > > > as userland. That's a fact. > > > > > > Is that a problem? > > > > I'm amazed that you're really actually asking that question :-( > > Really? Why can't userspace rely on the features that the kernel > provides them? Userspace can do whatever it wants. As long as I'm not being *forced* to do what userspace thinks is the right thing. It seems to me that since that whole systemd* debacle started, we're forgetting the choice aspect. And dammit, I want my choice. I want to be able to choose what I'm running. Not run what someone else thought what would be good for me to run. If I wanted that, I'd long switched to windoze or äbble. -- Regards/Gruss, Boris. ECO tip #101: Trim your mails when you reply. -- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/