Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756612AbbDORdj (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Apr 2015 13:33:39 -0400 Received: from cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com ([107.14.166.228]:46189 "EHLO cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751422AbbDORd3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Apr 2015 13:33:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 13:33:27 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: One Thousand Gnomes , Jiri Kosina , Al Viro , Borislav Petkov , Andy Lutomirski , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Arnd Bergmann , "Eric W. Biederman" , Tom Gundersen , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Daniel Mack , David Herrmann , Djalal Harouni Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 Message-ID: <20150415173327.GB24936@home.goodmis.org> References: <20150414175019.GA2874@kroah.com> <20150414192357.GA6107@kroah.com> <20150414192429.GC26075@pd.tnic> <20150414193229.GB6107@kroah.com> <20150414194004.GG889@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20150414194804.GB7540@kroah.com> <20150415113727.0cfd5224@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20150415114936.GD19274@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150415114936.GD19274@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1010 Lines: 22 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 01:49:36PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > There's the issue of thousands of dbus queries, and then there's the > issue that making those queries takes a measurable amount of time. We > can fix the later one, the first one, well, not so much, but we can > provide the resources for them to make a faster system if they want to. I'll argue that you can't fix the later one. One thing that I've observed over the years of having faster computers is, as soon as you make it faster, people will write slower software. Currently the issue is that we have thousands of dbus queries, you make dbus 10x faster, I guarantee that people will write software with 10 thousand dbus queries and we are no better off than we are today. -- Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/