Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 20:11:08 +0200
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
        Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
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        Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1
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On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 01:33:27PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 01:49:36PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > 
> > There's the issue of thousands of dbus queries, and then there's the
> > issue that making those queries takes a measurable amount of time.  We
> > can fix the later one, the first one, well, not so much, but we can
> > provide the resources for them to make a faster system if they want to.
> 
> I'll argue that you can't fix the later one. One thing that I've observed over
> the years of having faster computers is, as soon as you make it faster, people
> will write slower software.
> 
> Currently the issue is that we have thousands of dbus queries, you make dbus
> 10x faster, I guarantee that people will write software with 10 thousand dbus
> queries and we are no better off than we are today.

Then they get to buy a faster machine :)
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