Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754778AbbDTSVz (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:21:55 -0400 Received: from smtprelay0154.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.154]:51969 "EHLO smtprelay.hostedemail.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752603AbbDTSVx (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:21:53 -0400 X-Session-Marker: 726F737465647440676F6F646D69732E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,rostedt@goodmis.org,:::::::::::::::,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:541:599:800:960:973:988:989:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2553:2559:2562:2693:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3352:3622:3865:3866:3867:3868:3871:3872:3874:4250:5007:6119:6120:6261:7875:7901:10004:10400:10848:10967:11232:11658:11914:12517:12519:12663:12740:13069:13160:13229:13311:13357:14096:14097:21080,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0 X-HE-Tag: root42_1024d9cba8a05 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2346 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:21:49 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Ingo Molnar Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" , Clark Williams , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [GIT RFC PULL rcu/urgent] Prevent Kconfig from asking pointless questions Message-ID: <20150420142149.3ac58a2c@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20150420180904.GA19229@gmail.com> References: <20150416183812.GA5571@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20150418130340.GA26931@gmail.com> <20150418133444.GD23685@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20150418143238.GA2337@gmail.com> <20150419020541.GA5561@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20150420113554.598e503f@sluggy> <20150420170902.GU5561@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20150420180107.GE24936@home.goodmis.org> <20150420180904.GA19229@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1241 Lines: 31 On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:09:04 +0200 Ingo Molnar wrote: > So the disadvantage is that if a boot default is wrong, we'll hear > about it eventually and can fix/improve it. > > If a sysctl knob is wrong, people will just 'tune' it and forget to > propagate it to the kernel proper (why should they). My fear is that there is no one true value. One person complains about it, we change it, then someone else complains about the new value. That would be even worse. > > Which is fine for something like ftrace and other ad-hoc > instrumentation that is generally very fine tuned to a given bug or > given piece of hardware, but for something like the RCU implementation > of the kernel - even if it's just a RT side thought of it - I'm not so > sure about it. I would argue than every case is different, and only the sysadmin would know the right value. Thus, just set it to one, and if that's not good enough, then the sysadmins can change it to their needs. -- Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/