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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 08:08:56 -0400
From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
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To: George Spelvin <linux@horizon.com>, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
        richard.weinberger@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1
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On 2015-04-20 16:26, George Spelvin wrote:
>> It's used everywhere, on servers,
>> embedded systems, desktops, you name it.  All languages have bindings
>> for it, and it's the underpinning of a modern Linux stack.
>
> Since when?  D-bus is some GUI depoendency.  On my console-only servers=
, it's
> not needed, and not installed:
>
> # dpkg-query -s libdbus-1-3 dbus
> dpkg-query: package 'libdbus-1-3' is not installed and no information i=
s available
> dpkg-query: package 'dbus' is not installed and no information is avail=
able
> # dpkg-query -l \*dbus\*
> dpkg-query: no packages found matching *dbus*

Same here, but I use Gentoo, so it's easy to avoid stuff you don't want ;=
)
[...]
> Richard Weinberger wrote:
> And no systemd.  Udev actually does something useful, so I have it on m=
y
> desktop, but I have machines with a static /dev instead.
Likewise, I get by just fine with OpenRC, eudev, and Monit, the=20
combination of which provides all the functionality of SystemD that I=20
actually care about.


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