Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:04:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:04:18 -0500 Received: from pc2-cwma1-4-cust86.swan.cable.ntl.com ([213.105.254.86]:20378 "EHLO irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:04:17 -0500 Subject: Re: 2.4.20 Promise IDE RAID Locks up (gcc 3.2.1!) From: Alan Cox To: freaky Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <002701c2bb2d$4f097ee0$1400a8c0@Freaky> References: <006201c2b9ab$668e1950$1400a8c0@Freaky> <1042330639.3826.2.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <002701c2bb2d$4f097ee0$1400a8c0@Freaky> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Message-Id: <1042484366.19497.21.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 (1.2.1-2) Date: 13 Jan 2003 18:59:26 +0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 17:57, freaky wrote: > One more ques... They told me they can't release open-source because it > would make them lose their intellectual property. I was just thinking, if > you build hardware, especially RAID controllers, doesn't that mean you > sort-of bought a software RAID solution? That is, if their intellectual > property is that much in their software? I feel like I might as well have > gotten me a great linux supported IDE controller and use software RAID on > it... The analysis people (notably Arjan) have done strongly suggests that they licensed their software raid stuff from someone as HPT and Promise use a layout with a tiny mod, almost as if designed to be incompatible. The big problem with raid people (hardware included) is that they want desperately to keep their format controlled so that they can lock users into their controllers unless the user is willing to do a full backup and restore. In the hardware case people tend not to realise so much that is all. Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/