Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:38:49 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:38:49 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]:48512 "EHLO fencepost.gnu.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:38:47 -0500 From: Richard Stallman To: randall@uph.com CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-reply-to: <20030112125849.A28266@uph.com> (message from Jeff Randall on Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:58:49 -0600) Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: <20030105221345.GA31840@mark.mielke.cc> <20030106173949.GA1712@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20030107141758.GA10770@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20030108115327.GA5020@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20030110101043.A19070@uph.com> <20030112125849.A28266@uph.com> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:47:36 -0500 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org You developed tools and packages that you intended to put into a system that you have called the Hurd. Not quite. The system in question is "GNU". The Hurd is just part of the kernel of GNU; the other GNU packages are not part of the Hurd. I'm going to agree with Larry here. If you're going to insist that people call it GNU/Linux, then you had better start referring to your operating system as Linux/Hurd if you want to retain any credibility. I've already explained why this is bad logic. Will my explanation have "credibility"? That's asking whether other people will grasp the point. I think it is not useful to digress into speculation about what other people will think about an issue. It is better to stick to the issues themselves. People get angry because you're being disrespectful and presumptuous to try and tell people who know exactly what the order of events are that you and your foundation were actively involved in developing Linux. That was not the case and you know it. If you mean the whole system that is sometimes called Linux, we began developing it in 1984. Perhaps you've defined the "development of Linux" to include only that part of the development which began with integrating the kernel, Linux, with the rest of the system. We became involved in that starting in 1993 or 1994. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/