Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964942AbbD0O5W (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:57:22 -0400 Received: from metis.ext.pengutronix.de ([92.198.50.35]:48036 "EHLO metis.ext.pengutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752967AbbD0O5V (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:57:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:57:15 +0200 From: Michael Grzeschik To: David Miller Cc: mkl@pengutronix.de, joe@perches.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel@pengutronix.de Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/21] ARCNET: Defibrillation Message-ID: <20150427145715.GC23151@pengutronix.de> References: <1429896055-31680-1-git-send-email-m.grzeschik@pengutronix.de> <1429901273.23327.5.camel@perches.com> <553AB241.3080004@pengutronix.de> <20150424.235853.1997287895150693202.davem@davemloft.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150424.235853.1997287895150693202.davem@davemloft.net> X-Sent-From: Pengutronix Hildesheim X-URL: http://www.pengutronix.de/ X-IRC: #ptxdist @freenode X-Accept-Language: de,en X-Accept-Content-Type: text/plain X-Uptime: 16:13:53 up 42 days, 2:05, 86 users, load average: 1.22, 1.18, 1.18 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:67c:670:100:1d::c0 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mgr@pengutronix.de X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on metis.ext.pengutronix.de); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PTX-Original-Recipient: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2711 Lines: 73 Hi! On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 11:58:53PM -0400, David Miller wrote: > From: Marc Kleine-Budde > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 23:14:41 +0200 > > > On 04/24/2015 08:47 PM, Joe Perches wrote: > >> On Fri, 2015-04-24 at 19:20 +0200, Michael Grzeschik wrote: > >>> Hi! > >> > >> Hello. > >> > >>> This patch series tries to reanimate the ARCNET hardware layer to be > >>> somehow readable and maintainable again. It includes a lot of cleanup > >>> patches. It also adds some fixes which leads the layer to become usable > >>> again. And as a special treatment it adds more features like correct > >>> loading and unloading of the com20020 card. > >> > >> Wow. Good for you, but why? Does anyone still use these? > > > > Yes, there are parts of the industry where "old" machines are > > retrofitted with new hardware...and a lot of these machines still talk > > ARCNET :) > > But the real issue is, this layer is development wise in the same > category as the IDE layer. > > Any non-trivial change is nothing but pure risk, especially given the > low level of test coverage the code gets. Do you count coding style patches as non-trivial or trivial patches? > So I really only want to see the most critical obvious bug fixes > submitted for this layer and drivers. The cleanup changes I submitted should not change the actual behaviour. Replacing the register access macros with their equivalent outb/inb seems pretty obvious. What is your opinion on those? I see that the "ARCNET: whitespace, tab and codingstyle fixes" patch is pretty mixed up and not very reliable. But Joe has sent me a nice series for the cleanup. > And no I will not accept an argument stating that you have to > restructure and clean this code up in order to fix the bugs. That's > bogus. OK. I have the following patches in this series which fix bugs found during my development: com20020-pci: add dev_port for udev handling ARCNET: fix hard_header_len limit ARCNET: com20020: add enable and disable device on open/close I would send a new series containing only those patches with more detailed patch descriptions, if that's fine with you? Regards, Michael -- Pengutronix e.K. | | Industrial Linux Solutions | http://www.pengutronix.de/ | Peiner Str. 6-8, 31137 Hildesheim, Germany | Phone: +49-5121-206917-0 | Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 | Fax: +49-5121-206917-5555 | -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/