Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S966005AbbD1QFa (ORCPT ); Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:05:30 -0400 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:43153 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965701AbbD1QF1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:05:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:05:23 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Fabian Frederick Cc: Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: revert "fs/befs/linuxvfs.c: replace strncpy by strlcpy" Message-ID: <20150428160523.GJ889@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20150428034859.GI889@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <1363736428.511175.1430199310500.open-xchange@webmail.nmp.proximus.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1363736428.511175.1430199310500.open-xchange@webmail.nmp.proximus.be> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2596 Lines: 64 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 07:35:10AM +0200, Fabian Frederick wrote: > > Al, very unhappy about the prospect of looking through ~2000 calls of > > strlcpy() > > we have in the tree... > > Sorry Al, I thought it was more secure. It's not just you, unfortunately, and dumping all that annoyance on you as a proxy for everyone who does that kind of thing had been unfair. My apologies... > I guess the 2 following patches should be reversed as well : > > 6cb103b6f45a > "fs/befs/btree.c: replace strncpy by strlcpy + coding style fixing" > > 69201bb11327 > "fs/ocfs2/super.c: use OCFS2_MAX_VOL_LABEL_LEN and strlcpy" AFAICS, they should. Unfortunately, we _can't_ make strlcpy() never look past src + size - 1 - not without changing its semantics. Its callers expect it to return the length of source; one of the intended uses is wanted = strlcpy(dst, src, dst_size); if (wanted >= dst_size) { p = realloc(dst, wanted + 1); if (!p) { // too bad } else { dst = p; memcpy(dst, src, wanted + 1); } } and that really wants the accurate length. Now, the absolute majority of strlcpy() users in the kernel completely ignore the return value, i.e. go for silent truncation. About 1% do not. Out of those, some are correctly implemented "fail if truncated" uses. The rest... Some are weirdly open-coded snprintf() (series of strlcpy and strlcat) and some are _very_ dubious. Either they really never get truncated, or we have a problem. For example, this kernel/module.c:2349: s += strlcpy(s, &mod->strtab[src[i].st_name], smells really bad. We are truncating a bunch of strings dowsn to KSYM_NAME_LEN there and storing them in a buffer, with spacing that matches _untruncated_ strings. drivers/s390/scsi/zfcp_fc.c:825: len = strlcpy(rspn_req->rspn.fr_name, fc_host_symbolic_name(shost), also looks fishy - what happens there is len = strlcpy(rspn_req->rspn.fr_name, fc_host_symbolic_name(shost), FC_SYMBOLIC_NAME_SIZE); rspn_req->rspn.fr_name_len = len; drivers/usb/gadget/function/f_midi.c:976: result = strlcpy(page, opts->id, PAGE_SIZE); drivers/usb/gadget/function/f_printer.c:1172: result = strlcpy(page, opts->pnp_string + 2, PNP_STRING_LEN - 2); drivers/usb/gadget/function/f_printer.c:1184: result = strlcpy(opts->pnp_string + 2, page, PNP_STRING_LEN - 2); are also strange... -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/