Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752257AbbD2T2k (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:28:40 -0400 Received: from mailrelay.lanline.com ([216.187.10.16]:46206 "EHLO mailrelay.lanline.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751899AbbD2T2i (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:28:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <21825.12510.810320.403463@quad.stoffel.home> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:28:30 -0400 From: "John Stoffel" To: Steven Rostedt Cc: John Stoffel , Harald Hoyer , Richard Weinberger , "linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 In-Reply-To: <20150429173941.GA6259@home.goodmis.org> References: <20150428171840.GB11351@thunk.org> <21824.5086.446831.189915@quad.stoffel.home> <5540D2F9.2010704@redhat.com> <5540DEEB.2060405@redhat.com> <21825.1619.257083.696748@quad.stoffel.home> <20150429173941.GA6259@home.goodmis.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 23.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1380 Lines: 30 >>>>> "Steven" == Steven Rostedt writes: Steven> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:26:59PM -0400, John Stoffel wrote: >> >> If your customers wnat this feature, you're more than welcome to fork >> the kernel and support it yourself. Oh wait... Redhat does that >> already. So what's the problem? Just put it into RHEL (which I use >> I admit, along with Debian/Mint) and be done with it. Steven> Red Hat tries very hard to push things upstream. It's policy Steven> is to not keep things for themselves, but always work with the Steven> community. That way, everyone benefits. Ideally, we should Steven> come up with a solution that works for all. Yeah, I agree they have been good. I'm just reacting to the off the cuff comment of "my customers need it" which isn't a justification for this feature, esp when it hasn't been shown to be needed in the kernel. We went through alot of this with tux the in-kernel httpd server, and pushing other stuff out to user-space over the years. Why this needs to come in isn't clear. Or why not just a small part needing to come in with the rest in userspace. John -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/