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On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:26:59PM -0400, John Stoffel wrote:
> If your customers wnat this feature, you're more than welcome to fork
> the kernel and support it yourself.  Oh wait... Redhat does that
> already.  So what's the problem?   Just put it into RHEL (which I use
> I admit, along with Debian/Mint) and be done with it.

Harald,

If you make the RHEL initramfs harder to debug in the field, I will
await the time when some Red Hat field engineers will need to do the
same sort of thing I have had to do in the field, and be amused when
they want to shake you very warmly by the throat.  :-)

Seriously, keep things as simple as possible in the initramfs; don't
use complicated bus protocols; that way lies madness.  Enterprise
systems aren't constantly booting (or they shouldn't be, if your
kernels are sufficiently reliable :-), so trying to optimize for an
extra 2 or 3 seconds worth of boot time really, REALLY isn't worth it.

       	       	     	     	  - Ted
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