Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751773AbbD3BUg (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:20:36 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com ([209.85.215.53]:33752 "EHLO mail-la0-f53.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751077AbbD3BUd (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:20:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20150428171840.GB11351@thunk.org> <21824.5086.446831.189915@quad.stoffel.home> <5540D2F9.2010704@redhat.com> <5540DEEB.2060405@redhat.com> <21825.1619.257083.696748@quad.stoffel.home> <20150429224954.GC12374@thunk.org> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 11:20:32 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 From: Dave Airlie To: David Lang Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , John Stoffel , Harald Hoyer , Richard Weinberger , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1566 Lines: 41 >>> >>> I've had Enterprise systems where I could hit power on two boxes, and >>> finish >>> the OS install on one before the other has even finished POST and look >>> for >>> the boot media. I did this 5 years ago, before the "let's speed up boot" >>> push started. >>> >>> Admittedly, this wasn't a stock distro boot/install, it was my own >>> optimized >>> one, but it also wasn't as optimized and automated as it could have been >>> (several points where the installer needed to pick items from a menu and >>> enter values) >>> >> >> You guys might have missed this new industry trend, I think they call >> it virtualisation, >> >> I hear it's going to be big, you might want to look into it. > > > So what do you run your virtual machines on? you still have to put an OS on > the hardware to support your VMs. Virtualization doesn't eliminate servers > (as much as some cloud advocates like to claim it does) > > And virtualization has overhead, sometimes very significant overhead, so > it's not always the right answer. > Thanks for proving my point, RHEL as a distro runs in both scenarios, optimising one is important at the moment, that fact that it might speed up boot on server which take 15 mins to POST is a side effect. For some reason people seem to think their one use case is all that matters, Dave. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/