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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:42:51 -0400
From: "John Stoffel" <john@stoffel.org>
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>>>>> "David" == David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> writes:

David> Hi
David> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:43 PM, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
>> If the justification for why this needs to be in the kernel is that you
>> can't reliably prevent apps from exiting if there are pending messages, [...]

David> It's not.

>> the answer of "preventing apps from exiting if there are pending messages
>> isn't a sane thing to try and do" is a direct counter to that justification
>> for including it in the kernel.

David> It's optionally used for reliable exit-on-idle.

Then why is there a critical race that must be solved in the kernel if
it's optional?  And can you please describe in more detail what this
'exit-on-idle' thing is and how it works and why you would use it?


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