Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752031AbbEFUtu (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 May 2015 16:49:50 -0400 Received: from mail.lang.hm ([64.81.33.126]:53733 "EHLO bifrost.lang.hm" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751127AbbEFUtt (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 May 2015 16:49:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 13:49:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: linuxcbon linuxcbon cc: Ken Moffat , Richard Weinberger , LKML Subject: Re: how to have the kernel do udev's job and autoload the right modules ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <5547B89B.5070502@nod.at> <5547FFB8.5050007@nod.at> <20150505222644.GA27497@milliways> <20150506165556.GA23190@milliways> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1062 Lines: 25 On Wed, 6 May 2015, linuxcbon linuxcbon wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:53 PM, David Lang wrote: >> It's perfectly legitimate to not want to use udev, but that doesn't mean >> that the kernel will (or should) do it for you. >> David Lang > > When I boot the kernel without modules, I don't have anything working > except "minimal video". > I think the kernel should give a minimal support for network, sound and > video, even if 0 modules are loaded. I am just dreaming, You can do that, you just need to build in all the network and sound drivers (and pick which driver in the case of conflicts) There isn't such a thing as a 'generic' network or sound card. For video there is 'VGA video' which is used by default on x86 systems, but even that's a driver that could be disabled. David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/