Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753164AbbEHO3a (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 May 2015 10:29:30 -0400 Received: from foss.arm.com ([217.140.101.70]:53169 "EHLO foss.arm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751988AbbEHO33 (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 May 2015 10:29:29 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 07:29:28 -0700 From: Drew Richardson To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Peter Zijlstra , Mathieu Desnoyers , Ingo Molnar , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Thomas Gleixner , John Stultz , Wade Cherry , Pawel Moll Subject: Re: [PATCH] ftrace: Provide trace clock monotonic raw Message-ID: <20150508142927.GA1276@dreric01-Precision-T1650> References: <1430750469-16428-1-git-send-email-drew.richardson@arm.com> <199091314.42407.1430752205090.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> <20150504200515.GA24626@dreric01-Precision-T1650> <20150504205748.GB21418@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150505145438.GA5145@dreric01-Precision-T1650> <20150508100903.39641009@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150508100903.39641009@gandalf.local.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1670 Lines: 37 On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 03:09:03PM +0100, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Tue, 5 May 2015 07:54:46 -0700 > Drew Richardson wrote: > > > CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW will advance more constantly than CLOCK_MONOTONIC. > > > > Imagine someone is trying to optimize a particular program to reduce > > instructions executed for a given workload while minimizing the effect > > on runtime. Also suppose that ntp is running and potentially making > > larger adjustments to CLOCK_MONOTONIC. If ntp is adjusting > > CLOCK_MONOTONIC to advance more rapidly, the program will appear to > > use fewer instructions per second but run longer than it would if > > CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW had been used. The total number of instructions > > observed would be the same regardless of the clock source used, but > > how it's attributed to time would be affected. > > > > Conversely if ntp is adjusting CLOCK_MONOTONIC to advance more slowly, > > the program will appear to use more instructions per second but run > > more quickly. Of course there are many sources that can cause jitter > > in performance measurements on modern processors, but I'd like to > > remove ntp from the list. > > This is a nice description, and was expecting to see it in the change > log of the latest patch. Can you resend with a more detailed > description (like the above). > > Thanks! > > -- Steve > Sorry about that, thanks for your patience. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/