Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753656AbbEHQL1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 May 2015 12:11:27 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.9]:50988 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752165AbbEHQL0 (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 May 2015 12:11:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 18:11:02 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Drew Richardson , Mathieu Desnoyers , Ingo Molnar , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Thomas Gleixner , John Stultz , Wade Cherry , Pawel Moll Subject: Re: [PATCHv3] ftrace: Provide trace clock monotonic raw Message-ID: <20150508161102.GP27504@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <1430750469-16428-1-git-send-email-drew.richardson@arm.com> <199091314.42407.1430752205090.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> <20150504200515.GA24626@dreric01-Precision-T1650> <20150504205748.GB21418@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150505145438.GA5145@dreric01-Precision-T1650> <20150508100903.39641009@gandalf.local.home> <20150508143037.GB1276@dreric01-Precision-T1650> <20150508104120.3de866e0@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150508104120.3de866e0@gandalf.local.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2012-12-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1800 Lines: 38 On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 10:41:20AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Fri, 8 May 2015 07:30:39 -0700 > Drew Richardson wrote: > > > Expose the NMI safe accessor to the monotonic raw clock to the > > tracer. The mono clock was added with commit > > 1b3e5c0936046e7e023149ddc8946d21c2ea20eb. The advantage of the > > monotonic raw clock is that it will advance more constantly than the > > monotonic clock. > > > > Imagine someone is trying to optimize a particular program to reduce > > instructions executed for a given workload while minimizing the effect > > on runtime. Also suppose that NTP is running and potentially making > > larger adjustments to the monotonic clock. If NTP is adjusting the > > monotonic clock to advance more rapidly, the program will appear to > > use fewer instructions per second but run longer than if the monotonic > > raw clock had been used. The total number of instructions observed > > would be the same regardless of the clock source used, but how it's > > attributed to time would be affected. > > > > Conversely if NTP is adjusting the monotonic clock to advance more > > slowly, the program will appear to use more instructions per second > > but run more quickly. Of course there are many sources that can cause > > jitter in performance measurements on modern processors, but let's > > remove NTP from the list. > > > > The monotonic raw clock can also be useful for tracing early boot, > > e.g. when debugging issues with NTP. > > > > Peter, Thomas, John, you OK with this? Sure. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/