Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 05:57:40 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 05:57:40 -0500 Received: from bjl1.asuk.net.64.29.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.29.64.88]:41428 "EHLO bjl1.asuk.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 05:57:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:05:51 +0000 From: Jamie Lokier To: "Paulo Andre'" Cc: rms@gnu.org, brand@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de, steve@tuxsoft.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, brand@eeyore.valparaiso.cl Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] RMS and reactions to him Message-ID: <20030122110551.GA3813@bjl1.asuk.net> References: <200301201338.h0KDcLjd001178@eeyore.valparaiso.cl> <20030122101903.1e7bb68e.fscked@netvisao.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030122101903.1e7bb68e.fscked@netvisao.pt> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Paulo Andre' wrote: > Really, if it didn't work until now what makes you think it'll work > in the future? Oh, but it is working. I've seen quite a few web pages that say something to the effect of "I use GNU/Linux" or "this site runs on blah blah GNU/Linux". I think it likely that each person who wrote the "GNU/" thought about why they wanted to write it, too - which is the real point, isn't it? I don't know anyone who actually says GNU/Linux verbally though -- it's quite clumsy to say. (For my part, I never say or write "GNU/Linux", but instead I tend to say I use and write "Free Software". Unfortunately people still have trouble recognising how they are affected by the freedoms of _other_ people, so they persist in thinking I must mean something to do with the price tag. Alas!) > Even if you were right, I honestly don't see, with all my good will, a > successful ending to your quest. Do you? What is the rush to end the quest? Richard's campaign is about political awareness, and it seems to be working. If the campaign stopped today, that awareness might die down. Hopefully, the day will come when that is ok -- not because there are lots of people saying the same thing, but because terms like GNU and Free Software will be redundant. Hopefully, one day freely sharing ideas will the norm, as cultures develop which encourage sharing without hunger, and fighting over who owns (and so is the sole profiter of) an idea will seem weird. _Then_ this particular quest is ready to end. It may be a long time yet, perhaps longer than Richard or I will live. But hopefully not. -- Jamie - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/