Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751790AbbEUElK (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 May 2015 00:41:10 -0400 Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org ([140.211.169.12]:44758 "EHLO mail.linuxfoundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751193AbbEUElF (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 May 2015 00:41:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 21:41:04 -0700 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: One Thousand Gnomes , Seth Forshee , "Luis R. Rodriguez" , linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, james.l.morris@oracle.com, serge@hallyn.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, David Howells , Kyle McMartin , David Woodhouse , Joey Lee , Rusty Russell , zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, mricon@kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFD] linux-firmware key arrangement for firmware signing Message-ID: <20150521044104.GH22632@kroah.com> References: <20150519200232.GM23057@wotan.suse.de> <20150520140426.GB126473@ubuntu-hedt> <20150520172446.4dab5399@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20150520164613.GD10473@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150520164613.GD10473@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1301 Lines: 29 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 07:46:13PM +0300, Petko Manolov wrote: > On 15-05-20 17:24:46, One Thousand Gnomes wrote: > > > > More to the point why do you want to sign firmware files ? Leaving aside the > > fact that someone will produce a device with GPLv3 firmware just to p*ss you > > off there's the rather more relevant fact that firmware for devices on a so > > called "trusted" platform already have signed firmware. > > For "trusted" systems one would like to make sure everything that goes in has > known provenance. Maybe this was the idea? If so, then just do what people do today, verify their known valid disk image before mounting it and then they know they can trust the data on it to be use for whatever (including firmware.) No kernel changes needed, distro support is already there for this. I too don't understand this need to sign something that you don't really know what it is from some other company, just to send it to a separate device that is going to do whatever it wants with it if it is signed or not. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/