Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756613AbbEVHRe (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 May 2015 03:17:34 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-f174.google.com ([209.85.192.174]:34170 "EHLO mail-pd0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756032AbbEVHRc (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 May 2015 03:17:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 00:17:27 -0700 From: Brian Norris To: Mark Brown Cc: Michal Suchanek , linux-sunxi , Rob Herring , Pawel Moll , Mark Rutland , Ian Campbell , Kumar Gala , David Woodhouse , Marek Vasut , Huang Shijie , =?utf-8?B?UmFmYcWCIE1pxYJlY2tp?= , Ben Hutchings , Alison Chaiken , Mika Westerberg , Bean Huo =?utf-8?B?6ZyN5paM5paMIChiZWFuaHVvKQ==?= , "grmoore@altera.com" , devicetree , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-spi Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] MTD: spi-nor: check for short writes in spi_nor_write. Message-ID: <20150522071727.GD23718@brian-ubuntu> References: <50c40ef17ab6566f35ef5a4426bf23567f896db7.1430403750.git.hramrach@gmail.com> <20150520233835.GX11598@ld-irv-0074> <20150521102802.GS21577@sirena.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150521102802.GS21577@sirena.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3012 Lines: 63 On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:28:02AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:39:13AM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote: > > On 21 May 2015 at 01:38, Brian Norris wrote: > > Why is this thread about SPI error handling CCed to quite so many > people? I can't really speak for the original patch author, who created the CC list. I added you for comment on the SPI API (thanks BTW). This is part of a series that included an ill-conceived DT binding for recording a "max transfer length" property in the flash node. That's one step that easily blows up the CC list for the series, as there are 5 DT maintainers and a mailing list. Others are contributors to the m25p80 / spi-nor drivers. (All in all, you can probably trace this back to scripts/get_maintainer.pl.) > > >> Check the amount of data actually written by the driver. > > > > I'm not sure if we should just reactively use the retlen, or if we > > > should be communicating such a limitation via the SPI API. Thoughts? > > > Is there any driver that would break if the SPI master truncated > > writes when the message is too long rather than returning an error an > > refusing the transfer? > > Any such driver is buggy, the actual length transferred has always been > a part of the SPI API. OK, so m25p80.c currently checks the retlen (spi_message::actual_length), but it doesn't actually handle it well if the SPI master can't write a full page-size chunk in one go. It looks like we'd leave holes in the programmed data right now. So that qualifies as buggy, and that's part of what Michal is trying to fix, I think. Admittedly, as he's using an out-of-tree driver, I'm not sure I know exactly what failure modes he is hitting yet. > We should probably expose limitations so clients > can query in advance (we don't at the minute) but it'd be a while before > clients could rely on that information being useful and it's still > possible things can be truncated by error. That might help in the long run. In this case, I think we might be able to get by (for a properly-functioning SPI driver with a limited transfer size) with the current API, and handling the 'return length < message length' case better. BTW, one extra note for Michal regarding your SPI controller/driver transfer length limitation: you would do well to try as much as possible to allow full NOR pages to be programmed in one SPINOR_OP_PP sequence. I know of some SPI NOR that, though they are byte addressable, actually have opaque internal ECC which is encoded on page boundaries, so you get better flash lifetime if you program on page boundaries, rather than on whatever smaller chunk size your SPI driver supports. So that might require a little more work on your SPI driver. Brian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/