Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758036AbbEWQ1n (ORCPT ); Sat, 23 May 2015 12:27:43 -0400 Received: from bh-25.webhostbox.net ([208.91.199.152]:38504 "EHLO bh-25.webhostbox.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757984AbbEWQ1k (ORCPT ); Sat, 23 May 2015 12:27:40 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:27:37 -0700 From: Guenter Roeck To: York Sun Cc: Lee Jones , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: I2C class bitmask Message-ID: <20150523162737.GA4981@roeck-us.net> References: <555E4913.9070805@freescale.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <555E4913.9070805@freescale.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Authenticated_sender: guenter@roeck-us.net X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - bh-25.webhostbox.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - vger.kernel.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - roeck-us.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: bh-25.webhostbox.net: authenticated_id: guenter@roeck-us.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2401 Lines: 49 On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 02:07:31PM -0700, York Sun wrote: > Lee, > > Is there any convention regarding I2C class bitmask? I see only three are > defined for 3.12.19 and four for 4.0 > > I2C_CLASS_HWMON, I2C_CLASS_DDC, I2C_CLASS_SPD, I2C_CLASS_DEPRECATED > > I am working on a clock chip driver (SI5338) and trying to detect them (multiple > chips in i2c mux). It would be a lot easier to have its own class, like > I2C_CLASS_CLOCK. It is trivial to add a line to i2c.h file. Just checking if > this is a bad idea. > A class is supposed to indicate if a specific chip class is likely to be seen on an i2c adapter, and that it may be necessary to auto-detect it (an example are I2C_CLASS_HWMON type devices on PCs). The tendency, though, is to drop existing markers for I2C_CLASS_xxx from adapter drivers as much as possible because it slows down the boot process (see upstream commit 0c176170089c3). Auto-detection (with the _detect function) is not a preferred means to instantiate a device. It takes time, and it is more or less unreliable. For some chips, a read on its i2c register space can result in a chip reset, or it can cause it to lose its programming. Worst case it can turn a system into a brick. Preferred instantiations are listed in Documentation/i2c/instantiating-devices. Instantiation with devicetree, ACPI, or through i2c_register_board_info() would probably be the best available methods to instantiate a clock chip. Given that, first question is why you would want to have the chip auto-detected in the first place. Is there any reason to believe that explicit instantiation would not work in your system ? What are those reasons ? On top of that, the SI5338 does not have a clean way to detect the chip. It does not have a chip ID register, and it is multi-banked. Given the similarities of the various Silicon Labs clock chips, it may not even be possible to reliably distinguish it from other SI chips. So even if you had a good reason to auto-detect the chip, it would be _very_ unreliable. This seems to be quite undesirable and risky for a clock chip. Are you really sure that you want and need that ? Thanks, Guenter -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/