Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:54:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:54:53 -0500 Received: from gate.in-addr.de ([212.8.193.158]:40712 "HELO mx.in-addr.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:54:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:02:55 +0100 From: Lars Marowsky-Bree To: Kevin Lawton , Pavel Machek Cc: kernel list Subject: Re: Simple patches for Linux as a guest OS in a plex86 VM (please consider) Message-ID: <20030124180255.GF1099@marowsky-bree.de> References: <20030124154935.GB20371@elf.ucw.cz> <20030124171415.34636.qmail@web80310.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20030124171415.34636.qmail@web80310.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Ctuhulu: HASTUR Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2003-01-24T09:14:15, Kevin Lawton said: > To get any level of security with UML, you need to use "jailed mode" > in which performance takes a big beating. To fix this, you need > patches to Linux as a host, to make it offer a better environment > for running UML guests. From a commercial perspective, then you have > a patched Linux host + totally different port of a Linux guest. That commercial perspective is then completely misguided. All alternatives I have seen to UML (plex, vmware, UMLinux) suck IMHO. They are inherently much more platform specific than UML. The necessary modifications on the host for UML ska mode are minimal and I think besides bashing out whether it should be a syscall, proc file or whatever, everybody seems pretty much set on integrating them into the kernel. Sincerely, Lars Marowsky-Br?e -- Principal Squirrel SuSE Labs - Research & Development, SuSE Linux AG "If anything can go wrong, it will." "Chance favors the prepared (mind)." -- Capt. Edward A. Murphy -- Louis Pasteur - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/