Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752660AbbFAPTm (ORCPT ); Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:19:42 -0400 Received: from mail-ig0-f170.google.com ([209.85.213.170]:37855 "EHLO mail-ig0-f170.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751740AbbFAPTe (ORCPT ); Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:19:34 -0400 Subject: Re: Device Tree Blob (DTB) licence Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BD013CC5-D10A-427C-8621-3B9B43062EEF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b6 From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20150601141240.216d8146@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:19:31 -0600 Cc: David Lang , "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Russell King - ARM Linux , Yann Droneaud , "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Rob Landley Message-Id: <48C6A1C9-0959-4E88-8646-45FA2C18A776@bsdimp.com> References: <1430820315.19516.26.camel@opteya.com> <1432289148.5304.58.camel@opteya.com> <1432322832.5304.63.camel@opteya.com> <55670AD4.8020705@melag.de> <20150528133429.GD2067@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> <556747E4.6070403@melag.de> <20150529064741.GB25351@1wt.eu> <55684F07.7050402@melag.de> <20150601141240.216d8146@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> To: One Thousand Gnomes X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2930 Lines: 83 --Apple-Mail=_BD013CC5-D10A-427C-8621-3B9B43062EEF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Jun 1, 2015, at 7:12 AM, One Thousand Gnomes = wrote: >=20 >> not true, with a proprietary bios it's a clear "pay this much money = and don't >> worry about it" while with GPL there's a nagging fear that someone = you never >> heard of may sue you a decade from now claiming you need to give them = the source >> to your OS. >=20 > Not really no - the number of companies who bought proprietary = products, > resold them and then got sued because their supplier was cavalier is > huge. I follow the suits pretty closely, and the number is tiny. There=E2=80=99s= a huge hue and cry, sure. But the number is small compared to the offenses. And the = outcomes aren=E2=80=99t always what one would hope. The big guys with staying = power care. The rest are hit or miss. >> note, this whole discussion assumes that the DTB is even = copyrightable. Since >> it's intended to be strictly a functional description of what the = hardware is >> able to do, that could be questioned >=20 > I imagine you can write a DTB that is copyrightable and one that = isn't. >=20 > However this is all missing one important point. Whoever wrote their = DTB > gets to decide how they license it. It's nobody else's business. Actually it is other people=E2=80=99s business. There=E2=80=99s no harm = in asking for a license that would help the whole ecosystem. Warner --Apple-Mail=_BD013CC5-D10A-427C-8621-3B9B43062EEF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVbHgDAAoJEGwc0Sh9sBEAKHYP/0+LkPjeUuc9P7vHovS9VYTc itHtSjRwTnO8frr8zM7rS8eF5Fl9AZxxlqjgL302y25IIlnBjXhGl9Z6Sr50p3FO JZ3dH+/Ux+h/GPoIxuJ892UTBbfEkIUfvk0tQB0VVnzBxAyWhp23duyhG7qfzOZ+ 0ufch7YrubbreZqv7oYd6sEEoycqmHgpNMXHNABFaI9ti8p6dKBHnptaXyIPEutC KbuRbItEu6zPwwOVtrjKZiIo4sO33P8tBqrQGvuMGClHIDoGLCy0Qk49Y0TvZ5fw A2qxNN3wfBY9e7gZiFZF6abw+YYLDwRnVt0loLkjmUedSvyo47oRmrU7wIhtqvne WBG2UwRwWDQ5ciIf16yTGPGx5Qt40UpFmtvX310BPylNDjSBbPjii1qX2Yqr3F5I mG7RJB6NvHAUJD40Jj9Zb7SNnxp766O9laD7KTV7hh2c94iq1Kjrm61pUqPkSS7t jT620CZF7O9K+V/tzKzdRdSLoig4hQdQBL2Os92SrJttfA3j38mCceX2fHhITARv qo5gmnIJmC2B37tdG/5TdHROQ7BwxM+2/9/2y138SKlpcq1dq0nvaJ0wKEylJdHl Ne2PrPoEPAdZQjX6UOGJRCgTJtXo6hThohsluMYq4LrNHWJJQDQm0ZxBsoy56+tN y1Npojc2eu0Fx7EWuK0H =Exou -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_BD013CC5-D10A-427C-8621-3B9B43062EEF-- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/