Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:58:49 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:58:48 -0500 Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu ([198.82.162.213]:48396 "EHLO lennier.cc.vt.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:58:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Bootscreen From: "Richard B. Tilley " "(Brad)" To: Wichert Akkerman Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" In-Reply-To: <20030128145856.GE4868@wiggy.net> References: <200301281144.h0SBi0ld000233@darkstar.example.net> <20030128114840.GV4868@wiggy.net> <1043758528.8100.35.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030128130953.GW4868@wiggy.net> <1043761632.1316.67.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030128143235.GY4868@wiggy.net> <20030128153533.X28781-100000@snail.stack.nl> <20030128144714.GC4868@wiggy.net> <1043765872.6760.27.camel@oubop4.bursar.vt.edu> <20030128145856.GE4868@wiggy.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 (1.0.3-6) Date: 28 Jan 2003 10:07:57 -0500 Message-Id: <1043766477.6794.32.camel@oubop4.bursar.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Then, not supporting loadable modules *is* more secure. By not supporting them, you are decreasing the ease in which the kernel can be modified. There are fewer people who can "fiddle with memory by hand" than there are that can insert a loadable module... a lot fewer, don't you agree? On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 09:58, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Richard B. Tilley (Brad) wrote: > > Could you explain this in more detail? It seems to me that if the kernel > > does not support loadable modules that it would be inherently more > > secure because it could not be dynamically modified with a module. How > > is my understanding of this wrong? > > You can fiddle with kernel memory by hand and insert code and modules. > There are a couple of tools available to do that for you, google can > probably find them for you. > > Wichert. > > -- > Wichert Akkerman http://www.wiggy.net/ > A random hacker > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/