Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932359AbbFIIGH (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Jun 2015 04:06:07 -0400 Received: from www.linutronix.de ([62.245.132.108]:44942 "EHLO Galois.linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932239AbbFIIFw (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Jun 2015 04:05:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:05:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Gleixner To: George Spelvin cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, viresh.kumar@linaro.org Subject: Re: [patch 2/7] timer: Remove FIFO guarantee In-Reply-To: <20150609053930.25020.qmail@ns.horizon.com> Message-ID: References: <20150609053930.25020.qmail@ns.horizon.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (DEB 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Linutronix-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Linutronix-Spam-Level: - X-Linutronix-Spam-Status: No , -1.0 points, 5.0 required, ALL_TRUSTED=-1,SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1118 Lines: 36 On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, George Spelvin wrote: > Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > > After thinking more about it, I'm even more sure that any code which > > relies on the FIFO "guarantee" is broken today. > > Indeed, I am completely convinced. All I might request is a reassignment > of blame in the commit message. Will do. Thanks for spotting it! > Thank you for your comments on my other blue-sky ideas, too. > > I need to look into why we're using wheels, and what the point is. > How much of an advantage do they have over an efficient priority queue > like a pairing heap? The only reason is performance. The wheel has O(1) insertion and deletion time while heaps and trees usually have O(log(n)). Timer wheel timers are usually timeouts and 99% of them are canceled before expiry. Networking is probably the heaviest use case followed by disk I/O. Thanks, tglx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/