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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 18:27:39 -0500
From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
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Subject: Re: Perl in the toolchain
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J.A. Magallon wrote:
> On 2003.01.31 Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 01:41:26PM -0600, Kai Germaschewski wrote:
>>
>>>Generally, we've been trying to not make perl a prequisite for the kernel 
>>>build, and I'd like to keep it that way. Except for some arch specific 
>>
>>That's pretty much out the window when klibc gets merged, so perl will
>>indeed be a build requirement for all platforms...
>>
> 
> 
> So in short, kernel people:
> - do not want perl in the kernel build
> - allow qt to pollute the kernel to have a decent gui config tool
> - have to rewrite half perl features in C
> - but perl will be needed anyways
> 
> instead of
> - do all parsing in perl, that is what perl is for and what is mainly done
>   in kconfig scripts
> - do the config backend in perl, and...
> - do the gui in perl-XXX, so you can have perl-GTK, perl-GTK2, perl-QT or 
>   perl-Tk, even perl-Xaw (so you get rid of tcl/tk)
> 
> I really do not understand...


Well, you appear to be taking the superset of opinions, which is 
guaranteed to generate a paradox, I should think ;-)

Specifically regarding kconf, it does not require Qt; Qt is merely an 
optional piece.

For Perl, yes I personally think it is needed anyway.  And re-creating 
Perl's features in C, just to avoid Perl, is not the best technical 
solution when developers already have Perl installed.

	Jeff



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