Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754211AbbFTKRL (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Jun 2015 06:17:11 -0400 Received: from mondschein.lichtvoll.de ([194.150.191.11]:48050 "EHLO mail.lichtvoll.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752030AbbFTKRD (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Jun 2015 06:17:03 -0400 From: Martin Steigerwald To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: careful review of kdbus Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:17:01 +0200 Message-ID: <2920603.2MUNS3f4eR@merkaba> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.7 (Linux/4.1.0-rc8-tp520-btrfstrim-pstatetrace+; KDE/4.14.2; x86_64; git-38b5d90; 2015-04-16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1776 Lines: 40 Hello! In the light of * kdbus support is no longer compile-time optional. It is now always built-in. However, it can still be disabled at runtime using the kdbus=0 kernel command line setting, and that setting may be changed to default to off, by specifying --disable-kdbus at build-time. Note though that the kernel command line setting has no effect if the kdbus.ko kernel module is not installed, in which case kdbus is (obviously) also disabled. We encourage all downstream distributions to begin testing kdbus by adding it to the kernel images in the development distributions, and leaving kdbus support in systemd enabled. Lennart Poettering: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v221 http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-June/033170.html I hope you kernel developers will still review kdbus carefully as you did so far, instead of giving in to any downstream pressure by distros. It is exactly this attitude and this approach of systemd upstream that I feel uneasy about. Instead of humbly waiting and working towards having kdbus accepted to the kernel, systemd developers seem to use any means to create indirect pressure to have it included eventually. I hope that it will still be technical excellence as entry barrier for anything that goes into the kernel. Please note: I do not judge upon the technical quality of kdbus. I think others are more knowledgeable to do it. Thank you, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/