Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752612AbbFXLoD (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:44:03 -0400 Received: from mondschein.lichtvoll.de ([194.150.191.11]:46860 "EHLO mail.lichtvoll.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752174AbbFXLnz convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:43:55 -0400 From: Martin Steigerwald To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Linus Torvalds , Andy Lutomirski , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , David Herrmann , Djalal Harouni , Greg KH , Havoc Pennington , "Eric W. Biederman" , One Thousand Gnomes , Tom Gundersen , Daniel Mack Subject: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge? Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:43:33 +0200 Message-ID: <6798439.9m13YiNnBb@merkaba> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.10 (Linux/4.1.0-tp520-btrfstrim-pstatetrace+; KDE/4.14.2; x86_64; git-e0fc73a; 2015-06-16) In-Reply-To: <20150624080502.GA23842@gmail.com> References: <20150624080502.GA23842@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1981 Lines: 53 Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2015, 10:05:02 schrieb Ingo Molnar: > Not because I like it so much, but because I think the merge process > should be stripped of politics and emotion as much as possible: if an > initial submission is good and addresses all technical review properly, > and if the cost to the core kernel is low, then barring alternative, > fully equivalent and superior patch submissions, rejecting it does more > harm than good. Now that is an interesting challenge. As I realize more and more we are all feeling beings. Linus himself according to his own words as I received them wants to make perfectly sure that the developer who receives a message from him exactly knows how he feels, especially when he disagrees with a pull request and does not want to take it. To my perception the whole kernel development process is quite full of emotion, including your message I reply to. And now you want to get rid of it. I bet you can. If you remove Linus… and every other kernel developer from the development process, including yourself. But then, who will develop the kernel? I think a different way to handle emotions can help and I intend handle them this way to see what results I create this way. I am aiming to feel my feelings as they are, instead of immediately judging them or attaching a thought to them basically making them emotions and distorting them that way, blocking my energy in them [1]. So I will attempt to feel my feelings before I answer again. I didn´t do so in the last answer to you, and I think it shows. [1] Arnold M. Patent, "You can have it all" Thanks, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/