Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752152AbbFYH54 (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:57:56 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-f44.google.com ([209.85.218.44]:35622 "EHLO mail-oi0-f44.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751117AbbFYH5q (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:57:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20150624131850.GA7346@gmail.com> <2038926.5NohgnpEa1@merkaba> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:57:45 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VF2J5ePnpyozstfeBI7qr2wC7mg Message-ID: Subject: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge? From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: David Lang Cc: Martin Steigerwald , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds , Andy Lutomirski , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , David Herrmann , Djalal Harouni , Greg KH , Havoc Pennington , "Eric W. Biederman" , One Thousand Gnomes , Tom Gundersen , Daniel Mack Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1627 Lines: 41 On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:12 PM, David Lang wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >> Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2015, 10:39:52 schrieb David Lang: >>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Ingo Molnar wrote: >>>> And the thing is, in hindsight, after such huge flamewars, years down >>>> the line, almost never do I see the following question asked: 'what >>>> were we thinking merging that crap??'. If any question arises it's >>>> usually along the lines of: 'what was the big fuss about?'. So I think >>>> by and large the process works. >>> >>> counterexamples, devfs, tux >> >> What was tux? > > in-kernel webserver Which was cool, and small, and _faster_ than anything else... Until it was integrated, and people working on (userspace) webservers started considering its performance as a target, and soon it was out-performed by userspace webservers... So it did teach us a lesson... (Perhaps the above paragraph is actually good advocacy for integrating kdbus, and for seeding a better userspace implementation? ;-) Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/