From: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge?
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:03:27 +0200
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Am Donnerstag, 25. Juni 2015, 09:34:56 schrieb Theodore Ts'o:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 08:05:58AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Or, do you think, that there is a different option to handle this then
> > the both I outlined above?
> 
> Hmm... distros could have their engineers **fix** the busted userspace
> code, instead of fixing the problem by jamming a different
> implementation into the kernel?

Hmm, I read on Devuan mailing list, that Qt engineers work on doing dbus 
directly inside Qt instead of using the existing libdbus. I did not verify 
this claim yet. But considering what I read here about performance issues 
with libdbus I think it would make quite some sense.

Also I wonder who will use sdbus stuff from systemd / libsystemd – I sure 
hope sdbus will work without systemd running as PID 1, but I am not clear on 
this either – from the desktop environment people beside xdg-app. I doubt 
that Qt will depend on it, being available for more than the Linux platform.

And if GNOME wants to be portable to the BSD variants at least, they can´t 
depend on it either.

So who will use non portable sdbus anyway – except specialized apps?

In case I missed this in the discussion so far, sorry, but from what I read 
from the various threads I am really not clear on this.

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