Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752261AbbFYP0M (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:26:12 -0400 Received: from cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com ([107.14.166.231]:34963 "EHLO cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751448AbbFYP0G (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:26:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:26:00 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: David Lang , Martin Steigerwald , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds , Andy Lutomirski , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , David Herrmann , Djalal Harouni , Greg KH , Havoc Pennington , "Eric W. Biederman" , One Thousand Gnomes , Tom Gundersen , Daniel Mack Subject: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge? Message-ID: <20150625152600.GB6837@home.goodmis.org> References: <20150624131850.GA7346@gmail.com> <2038926.5NohgnpEa1@merkaba> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.142:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1117 Lines: 29 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 09:57:45AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > > in-kernel webserver > > Which was cool, and small, and _faster_ than anything else... > Until it was integrated, and people working on (userspace) webservers > started considering its performance as a target, and soon it was > out-performed by userspace webservers... > > So it did teach us a lesson... > > (Perhaps the above paragraph is actually good advocacy for integrating > kdbus, and for seeding a better userspace implementation? ;-) > Except back then, the userspace web servers were created by the competition and there was a strong incentive to beat tux. But today, kdbus is written by the same folks that write dbus, and there's no other competition. There's no incentive to fix dbus once kdbus is merged, and in fact, it gives incentive to just drop it completely. -- Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/