Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:18:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:18:17 -0500 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:42889 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:18:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:27:46 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Eli Carter Cc: Larry McVoy , Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: gcc 2.95 vs 3.21 performance Message-ID: <20030205002746.GA10206@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Eli Carter , Larry McVoy , Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <1044385759.1861.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200302041935.h14JZ69G002675@darkstar.example.net> <20030204232101.GA9034@work.bitmover.com> <3E405207.8080207@inet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E405207.8080207@inet.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1532 Lines: 30 > Ok, dumb, (and probably flamebait) question time: I read your list and > thought "In C? Why not Python?" I'm guessing speed issues? Scripting languages are unacceptable for products. Flat out unacceptable. I spoke to Chip when he was running the perl effort, his answer was "if you are worried about new releases of perl breaking your scripts, ship your own version of perl". I spoke with Guido or some other Python luminary and he said the same thing. For something which a company has to support, it needs to be a compiled language with fairly minimal dependencies. Otherwise the customer upgrades and the tool breaks. Don't get me wrong, I love perl (well, perl 4, perl 5 got a bit weird for my tastes but some people seem to like it) and python looks cool as well. They are great for prototyping but they are just useless as a application platform. Our support costs would be through the roof. Before the inevitable flameage, please consider that we have to support people who insist on using all sorts of weird things. Richard Gooch maintains his own a.out based linux distribution, for example. Do we get to tell him to upgrade? Nope. And it just gets worse from there. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/