Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:30:59 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:30:59 -0500 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([212.18.232.186]:43536 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:30:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:40:28 +0000 From: Russell King To: Christoph Hellwig , Nicolas Pitre , Nilmoni Deb , lkml Subject: Re: Monta Vista software license terms Message-ID: <20030205184028.A10851@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Hellwig , Nicolas Pitre , Nilmoni Deb , lkml References: <20030205171710.A23093@infradead.org> <20030205182025.A24138@infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030205182025.A24138@infradead.org>; from hch@infradead.org on Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 06:20:25PM +0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2053 Lines: 44 On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 06:20:25PM +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 01:17:57PM -0500, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > Would kernel hackers care if Monta Vista stopped contributing its kernel > > development to the community entirely, but give it only to its customers? > > The only mvista people that I see actively contributing are those that were > part of the linux community even before working for mvista.. > > > Now it should be said that Monta Vista is giving away to the community most > > of its kernel changes, and even preaching for their inclusion in Linus' tree > > or the different architecture specific projects. That's beyond the GPL > > requirements. When that doesn't happen, it's usually because the code is > > either too ugly for general acceptance, of low usefulness but to one > > specific customer, or because the customer asked not to publish, or due to a > > lack of time to process say source. > > Just put up your damn source tree so people can look at it like every one else > does. That is the whole point! Chris, Nicolas submits a hell of a lot through me. Nicolas has been around in the Linux community pre-Montavista. He maintained the SA1100 patches, and worked to integrate them into my patches for a fair number of years, from 2.2 right through late 2.4 times, including after he started working for Montavista. Lately, he has become responsible for the PXA250 code. In other words, Nicolas actively participates in the communities concerning the areas that he works in. The fact you don't see his submissions or participation is not something you can or should be using to leverage your point. -- Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk) The developer of ARM Linux http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/