Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754262AbbGBT0i (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Jul 2015 15:26:38 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f51.google.com ([209.85.215.51]:34018 "EHLO mail-la0-f51.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754679AbbGBT00 (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Jul 2015 15:26:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55958F93.7020609@zytor.com> References: <1435341131-3279-1-git-send-email-prarit@redhat.com> <20150627083354.GA12834@gmail.com> <20150627083921.GA13074@gmail.com> <1A7043D5F58CCB44A599DFD55ED4C948468A477B@fmsmsx115.amr.corp.intel.com> <55958F93.7020609@zytor.com> From: Andy Lutomirski Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 12:26:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86, msr: Allow read access to /dev/cpu/X/msr To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: "Brown, Len" , Ingo Molnar , Prarit Bhargava , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , X86 ML , "Chandramouli, Dasaratharaman" , Peter Zijlstra , Borislav Petkov , Andy Lutomirski , Denys Vlasenko , Brian Gerst , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1641 Lines: 35 On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:22 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > On 07/01/2015 09:38 AM, Brown, Len wrote: >> >> BTW. I've had a discussion w/ LLNL about their needs, >> both for security and performance. For security, as concluded >> by this thread, a white list is the only way to go. >> I'm thinking a bit-vector of allowed MSR offsets... >> For performance, they absolutely can not afford a system call >> for every single MSR access. Here an ioctl to have the >> msr driver perform a vector of accesses in a single system >> call seems the way to go. I can prototype both of these >> using turbostat as the customer. >> > > Every time I have heard about people having issues with performance for > MSR access, it is because they are doing cross-CPU accesses which means > a neverending stream of IPIs. You get immensely better performance by > tying a thread to a CPU and only accessing the local CPU from that > thread. This has addressed any performance problems anyone has ever > come to me with. As Andy and Ingo have already pointed out, the MSR > access itself is pretty much as expensive as the system call overhead. To be fair, before we had opportunistic sysret, CONFIG_CONTEXT_TRACKING was *extremely* expensive. Even now, it's still pretty bad. Len, do you know what configuration and kernel version this was on or what the apparent syscall overhead was? --Andy -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/