Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753270AbbGEXCC (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Jul 2015 19:02:02 -0400 Received: from v094114.home.net.pl ([79.96.170.134]:44980 "HELO v094114.home.net.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751311AbbGEXB4 (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Jul 2015 19:01:56 -0400 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: Alan Stern Cc: Dave Chinner , Len Brown , Henrique de Moraes Holschuh , One Thousand Gnomes , Linux PM list , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Len Brown Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] suspend: delete sys_sync() Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 01:28:20 +0200 Message-ID: <2293886.L6VJGgjdDp@vostro.rjw.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.11.5 (Linux/4.1.0-rc5+; KDE/4.11.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2000 Lines: 51 On Saturday, July 04, 2015 10:19:55 AM Alan Stern wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > The only argument against dropping sys_sync() from the suspend code path > > I've seen in this thread that I entirely agree with is that it may lead to > > regressions, because we've done it practically forever and it may hide latent > > bugs somewhere in block drivers etc. Dropping it, though, is the only way > > to see those bugs, if any, and if we want to ever fix them, we need to see > > them. That's why I think that it may be a good idea to allow people to > > drop it if they are willing to accept some extra risk (via the kernel > > command line, for example). > > I'd be perfectly happy to have the sync selectable at runtime, one way > or another. The three most reasonable options seem to be: > > kernel command line > > sysfs file > > sysctl setting > > The command line is less flexible (it can't be changed after booting). > Either of the other two would be fine with me. We'll probably use a sysfs file (possibly plus a Kconfig option to set the boot time default). > > Moreover, question is if we really need to carry out the sync on *every* > > suspend even if it is not pointless overall. That shouldn't really be > > necessary if we suspend and resume often enough or if we resume only for > > a while and then suspend again. Maybe it should be rate limited somehow > > at least? > > For example, skip the sync if the system has been awake for < 100 ms? Yes, something like that. > The cutoff time could also be controlled by the sysfs file: -1 => > never sync, 0 => always sync, > 0 => sync if the system has been awake > longer than the value. That sounds like a good idea to me. Thanks, Rafael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/