Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753266AbbGITVA (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:21:00 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com ([209.85.223.171]:32845 "EHLO mail-ie0-f171.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752179AbbGITUv (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:20:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <559EC297.3030901@linux.intel.com> References: <559EC297.3030901@linux.intel.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 12:20:50 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GOF9FiOF8sFsqqslG4BdDaU04v8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kconfig/32: Make CONFIG_VM86 default to n and remove EXPERT From: Linus Torvalds To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: Andy Lutomirski , "the arch/x86 maintainers" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Oleg Nesterov , Kees Cook , Peter Zijlstra , Borislav Petkov , Austin S Hemmelgarn , Brian Gerst , Matthew Garrett Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1295 Lines: 29 On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > I would rather do BOTH the default n AND the EXPERT That basically makes it impossible for "normal people" to test it. You have to mark yourself as expert, and then get the rest of the configuration right. Not a good idea. The kernel config is probably our biggest problem for getting people to test. Building the kernel? Easy. Installing it? "make install; make modules_install". Not that hard, unless your distro has screwed it up (which has happened, I'm looking at you, Ubuntu). But making a config that is sane? Not easy. Let's not make people have to mess with their configurations any more than they have to. It's too painful. The one thing we might want to do is to rename the config option, simply to make sure that people who do "make oldconfig" will actually see the new question and hopefully pick the new default rather than just getting their old "y" without even seeing it. Call the option "LEGACY_VM86" or something, perhaps? Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/