Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:48:29 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:48:29 -0500 Received: from thebsh.namesys.com ([212.16.7.65]:39114 "HELO thebsh.namesys.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:48:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3E47A1E5.6020902@namesys.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:58:13 +0300 From: Hans Reiser User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrea Arcangeli CC: Andrew Morton , piggin@cyberone.com.au, jakob@unthought.net, david.lang@digitalinsight.com, riel@conectiva.com.br, ckolivas@yahoo.com.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@suse.de Subject: Re: stochastic fair queueing in the elevator [Re: [BENCHMARK] 2.4.20-ck3 / aa / rmap with contest] References: <20030210001921.3a0a5247.akpm@digeo.com> <20030210085649.GO31401@dualathlon.random> <20030210010937.57607249.akpm@digeo.com> <3E4779DD.7080402@namesys.com> <20030210101539.GS31401@dualathlon.random> <3E4781A2.8070608@cyberone.com.au> <20030210111017.GV31401@dualathlon.random> <3E478C09.6060508@cyberone.com.au> <20030210113923.GY31401@dualathlon.random> <20030210034808.7441d611.akpm@digeo.com> <20030210120916.GD31401@dualathlon.random> In-Reply-To: <20030210120916.GD31401@dualathlon.random> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1080 Lines: 29 Is the following a fair summary? There is a certain minimum size required for the IOs to be cost effective. This can be determined by single reader benchmarking. Only readahead and not anticipatory scheduling addresses that. Anticipatory scheduling does not address the application that spends one minute processing every read that it makes. Readahead does. Anticipatory scheduling does address the application that reads multiple files that are near each other (because they are in the same directory), and current readahead implementations (excepting reiser4 in progress vaporware) do not. Anticipatory scheduling can do a better job of avoiding unnecessary reads for workloads with small time gaps between reads than readahead (it is potentially more accurate for some workloads). Is this a fair summary? -- Hans - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/