Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:20:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:20:10 -0500 Received: from zok.sgi.com ([204.94.215.101]:32182 "EHLO zok.sgi.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:20:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3E47E170.FD3BC5BC@sgi.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:29:20 -0800 From: Casey Schaufler Organization: Silicon Graphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-security-module@wirex.com CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [BK PATCH] LSM changes for 2.5.59 References: <001001c2d0b0$cf49b190$1403a8c0@sc.tlinx.org> <3E471F21.4010803@wirex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1728 Lines: 49 Crispin Cowan wrote: > > LA Walsh wrote: > > >>From: Crispin Cowan > >> > >>LSM does have a careful design.... meeting a > >>goal stated by Linus nearly two years ago. > >> > >> > > A security model that mediates access to security objects by > >logging all access and blocking access if logging cannot continue is > >unsupportable in any straight forward, efficient and/or non-kludgy, ugly > >way. > > > Because Linus asked for access control support, not audit logging > support, it is not surprising that logging models don't fit so well. > > > Some security people were banned from the kernel > >devel. summit because their thoughts were deemed 'dangerous': fear was they > >were too persuasive about ideas that were deemed 'ignorant' and would > >fool those poor kernel lambs at the summit. > > > Internal SGI politics. Just a gentle reminder that Ms. Walsh is not an SGI employee and that any opinions she may express regarding the Linux development process are her own, and may not reflect the views or understandings of SGI or any other individuals involved. In particular, dragging SGI into this discussion is inappropriate and unnecessary. SGI is currently not active in this effort, and makes no claims regarding it's appropriateness to any particular purpose. Please leave SGI, in spirit and name, out of this discussion. -- Casey Schaufler Manager, Trust Technology, SGI casey@sgi.com voice: 650.933.1634 casey_p@pager.sgi.com Pager: 877.557.3184 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/