Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752986AbbGOPVK (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Jul 2015 11:21:10 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com ([209.85.223.169]:36476 "EHLO mail-ie0-f169.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752079AbbGOPVF (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Jul 2015 11:21:05 -0400 Message-ID: <55A67A57.8010502@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 11:20:55 -0400 From: Austin S Hemmelgarn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Sandeen , Randy Dunlap , "Theodore Ts'o" , Jan Kara , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Andrew Morton , Andreas Dilger , Jens Axboe Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Remove ext3 filesystem driver References: <1436955987-7305-1-git-send-email-jack@suse.com> <20150715141836.GA18400@thunk.org> <55A676BF.8020903@infradead.org> <55A67790.80802@infradead.org> <55A6780E.2040702@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <55A6780E.2040702@redhat.com> x-hashcash: 1:21:150715:sandeen@redhat.com::1ceeda6e5e69f1d0c5cfab065bb86eb5:5821c2aec9cb6891 x-hashcash: 1:21:150715:rdunlap@infradead.org::52b24446fa2cb06b61f32f7ecbeadfd9:88274eb0a6bfef0b x-hashcash: 1:21:150715:tytso@mit.edu::5e2f1e87c8d4230be4af633c2e8202d:25dbbebc75d479db x-hashcash: 1:21:150715:jack@suse.com::9393f7841765f54beed49fa3b138c169:ca4dc6b03b953f4a x-hashcash: 1:21:150715:linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org::edc15cd34f4480fed6f9444742b0e7c8:3f5e6276a059a546 x-hashcash: 1:21:150715:linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org::c85996f8b97746bf6ee09e1f052c8c56:adef6df93bd7170c x-hashcash: 1:21:150715:linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org::249b85307f4606987ff6efcc9eca84a3:b41d8d386f6aa921 x-hashcash: 1:21:150715:akpm@linux-foundation.org::4701bcf07b2e0e01d8ece427c7ce045d:f5a0d5fd65c3832e x-hashcash: 1:21:150715:adilger.kernel@dilger.ca::599165aa302f947013daa3b93bd04a8b:de6ddee711429c97 x-hashcash: 1:21:150715:axboe@kernel.dk::52f47beed9a8b99d9d95a152fb32199:4ab3c603b8a378ff x-stampprotocols: hashcash:1:17;mbound:0:10:3000:5000 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020403030504010409020501" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 150715-0, 2015-07-15), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 7097 Lines: 141 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020403030504010409020501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015-07-15 11:11, Eric Sandeen wrote: > On 7/15/15 10:09 AM, Randy Dunlap wrote: >> On 07/15/15 08:05, Randy Dunlap wrote: >>> On 07/15/15 07:18, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:26:24PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote: >>>>> >>>>> so I have created this patch set which removes ext3 driver (and = some related support >>>>> code) from the kernel. See changelog of patch 2/3 for more details.= If noone objects, >>>>> I will queue the series in my tree for the next merge window. >>>>> >>>>> Jens, are you OK with me merging patch 3/3 or do you want me to sen= d it to you once >>>>> the first two patches get merged? >>>>> >>>>> Ted, this also touches ext4 driver so that it always handles ext3 f= ilesystems so ack >>>>> from you would be nice. >>>> >>>> Got tired of maintaining ext3, eh? :-) >>>> >>>> As a minor nit, I wonder if it's worth while to put in some hackery = in >>>> fs/Kconfig so that if someone only has CONFIG_FS_EXT3 defined, but n= ot >>>> CONFIG_FS_EXT4 defined, that it will automatically enable >>>> CONFIG_FS_EXT4 instead? Otherwise someone upgrading their kernel >>>> might accidentally end up getting a non-functional kernel. >>>> >>>> i.e., something like this? (not tested!) >>>> >>>> config FS_EXT3 >>>> def_bool n >>>> select FS_EXT4 >>> >>> >>> Yes, if someone is going to force us to use ext4, some automation wou= ld >>> be helpful. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >> >> Are there any other changes required, e.g., to /etc/fstab ? >> >> btw, this looks like an April 1 joke to me. > > no fstab changes required. The ext4 driver has been able to register > itself as ext[23] for quite some time now, so it's transparent. > > Many/most distros have been using the ext4.ko driver for ext3 & ext2 fo= r > years. You may already be using that on some boxes, and not even know = it. > ;) Yeah, 99% of the systems I've seen in the past 2 years have been using=20 either the ext4 driver, or using exclusively ext2 (mostly embedded=20 systems, and they usually choose ext2 because it's _very_ lightweight=20 compared to ext[34] and the other alternatives). 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