Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:02:49 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:02:29 -0500 Received: from cr626425-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com ([24.156.35.8]:45577 "EHLO spqr.damncats.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:02:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3A8DB0D0.5603E01@damncats.org> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:59:28 -0500 From: John Cavan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.1-ac15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis CC: jesse@cats-chateau.net, A.J.Scott@casdn.neu.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux stifles innovation... [way O.T.] In-Reply-To: <3A8CF1FE.16672.10105D@localhost> <3A8CF1FE.16672.10105D@localhost> <5.0.0.25.0.20010216170349.01efc030@mail.etinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Dennis wrote: > objective, arent we? You might ask yourself the same question... > For example, if there were six different companies that marketed ethernet > drivers for the eepro100, you'd have a choice of which one to buy..perhaps > with different "features" that were of value to you. Instead, you have > crappy GPL code that locks up under load, and its not worth spending > corporate dollars to fix it because you have to give away your work for > free under GPL. And since there is a "free" driver that most people can > use, its not worth building a better mousetrap either because the market is > too small. So, the handful of users with problems get to "fit it > themselves", most of whom cant of course. A large bulk of the investment in Linux is starting to come in from hardware manufacturers, notably IBM. These companies see Linux as a means to sell more hardware, not as a means to sell software. This is critical, because it means that it IS worth the money to make the driver perform correctly, GPL or not, because a bad driver means no sales. You can't argue from the standpoint of "small market" and then the destruction of the market itself. By definition, in order for the software market to be significantly damaged, Linux (and other open source projects) would have to hold more than a small percentage of the market. Hence, your market just got big and if you make hardware, you better make a good driver. [snip general name calling and other sorts of bashing - remember, objective?] John - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/