Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 07:39:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: Vesselin Atanasov <vesselin@bgnet.bg>
To: Dennis <dennis@etinc.com>
cc: jesse@cats-chateau.net, Andrew Scott <A.J.Scott@casdn.neu.edu>,
        Andrew Scott <A.J.Scott@casdn.neu.edu>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux stifles innovation...
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Hahahaha.
Dennis, the only linux network drivers that I have had serious problems
with were yours. They caused kernel panic on 2.0.30+ every 6 hours. Of
course I did not have the source to fix them. In comparision eepro100
works rock solid on all of my machines that use it.

Will I use some binary only drivers again? No thanks!

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote:

> At 02:48 PM 02/16/2001, Jesse Pollard wrote:
> >On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Andrew Scott wrote:
> > >On 15 Feb 2001, at 9:49, fsnchzjr wrote:
> > >
> > >> Watch Microsoft's Jim Allchin go Linux-bashing!!!
> > >> Nice little article on how we're all going to die of herpes from our
> > >> repeated exposition to Linux...
> > >> 
> > http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-4825719-RHAT.html?ta
> > >> g=ltnc
> > >
> > >That's about as self-serving a statement as I've ever seen. If this
> > >'Jim Alchin' actually believes what he's saying, he's got to be one
> > >of the worlds biggest fools, and if he doesn't believe what he's
> > >saying, well there aren't too many words that would accurately
> > >describe what he is.
> > >
> > >It's pretty funny in some ways, e.g. "We can build a better product
> > >than Linux...", which begs the question, "Well, why don't you?".
> > >Perhaps it costs too much?
> 
> objective, arent we?
> 
> There is much truth to the concept, although Microsoft should not be ones 
> to comment on it as such.
> 
> For example, if there were six different companies that marketed ethernet 
> drivers for the eepro100, you'd have a choice of which one to buy..perhaps 
> with different "features" that were of value to you. Instead, you have 
> crappy GPL code that locks up under load, and its not worth spending 
> corporate dollars to fix it because you have to give away your work for 
> free under GPL. And since there is a "free" driver that most people can 
> use, its not worth building a better mousetrap either because the market is 
> too small. So, the handful of users with problems get to "fit it 
> themselves", most of whom cant of course.
> 
> Theres also the propensity for mediocre stuff to get into the kernel 
> because some half-baked programmer was willing to contribute some code. The 
> 50% of the kernel that remains "experimental" ad infinitum is evidence of that.
> 
> The biggest thing that the linux community does to stifle innovation is to 
> bash commercial vendors trying to make a profit by whining endlessly about 
> "sourceless" distributions and recommending "open-source" solutions even 
> when they are wholly inferior. You're only hurting yourselves in the long 
> run. In that respect MS is correct, because those with the dollars to 
> innovate will stay away.
> 
> DB
> 
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