Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:55:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:55:34 -0500 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:52611 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:55:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:05:23 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Adrian Bunk Cc: Larry McVoy , Rik van Riel , Jamie Lokier , Andrea Arcangeli , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: openbkweb-0.0 Message-ID: <20030213220522.GA11214@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Adrian Bunk , Larry McVoy , Rik van Riel , Jamie Lokier , Andrea Arcangeli , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20030206021029.GW19678@dualathlon.random> <20030213024751.GA14016@bjl1.jlokier.co.uk> <20030213161337.GA9654@work.bitmover.com> <20030213211127.GG20159@fs.tum.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030213211127.GG20159@fs.tum.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1301 Lines: 29 On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 10:11:27PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 08:13:37AM -0800, Larry McVoy wrote: > >... > > We'd view reverse engineering the protocol as falling under the "you're > > working on a competing implementation". > >... > > If a clause in a license forbids a licensee to use or decompile the > program to gather the information needed for independendly developed > programs to interoperate with this program current German copyright law > says that this clause is void in Germany. :-) Please show me the case law which says we have to give you our technology, for free, and we do not have the right to say "no way unless you agree to not reverse engineer". Lots of law says "if you paid for this product, the seller may not impose the following restrictions" with reverse engineering being amongst those. I do not have any data which says that the same law applies in the case of a no charge copy of the software, do you? -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/