Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:26:42 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:26:42 -0500 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:40873 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:26:40 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:36:11 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Alan Cox Cc: Larry McVoy , David Dillow , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-net@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik Subject: Re: 3Com 3cr990 driver release Message-ID: <20030214163611.GD3188@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Alan Cox , Larry McVoy , David Dillow , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-net@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik References: <3E4C9FAA.FC8A2DC7@y12.doe.gov> <1045233209.7958.11.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030214151920.GA3188@work.bitmover.com> <1045241640.1353.13.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030214160915.GC3188@work.bitmover.com> <1045243414.1353.28.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1045243414.1353.28.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1821 Lines: 37 On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:23:35PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > And no I don't want to use bitkeeper any more, your ever changing > licenses and removals of more and more rights have reminded me why > many proprietary vendors just cannot be trusted and why format lockin > is so dangerous. The license hasn't changed in almost a year, so perhaps you'd care to back up this "ever changing licenses" statement with some data? Stop spreading FUD, Alan, it's beneath you. I could just as easily attack Red Hat for getting patents, do you see me doing that? And just what rights have we removed? Since the license hasn't changed, it's sort of hard to say that the rights have changed. More FUD. And what format lockin? It's an open format, GNU CSSC reads and writes it just fine, and we've made a point over the years of telling them each time we change something so that they can continue to read/write our files. More FUD. > You are turning a simple "can I have that in a format I can read" into > yet another epic bitkeeper flame war. No, I'm countering a pile of pathetic FUD from someone who has no business spreading it. I've taken a lot of crap in return for helping the kernel effort and I'm sick of it. I haven't noticed you, Alan, taking a half decade off to code up an SCM system good enough for Linus to use. Without the benefit of having one to copy, by the way. When you've done that you are welcome to critize how I went about it. Until then, stop your whining. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/