Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:49:58 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:49:58 -0500 Received: from bjl1.jlokier.co.uk ([81.29.64.88]:5504 "EHLO bjl1.jlokier.co.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:49:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 01:01:53 +0000 From: Jamie Lokier To: Davide Libenzi Cc: Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Synchronous signal delivery.. Message-ID: <20030215010153.GE4333@bjl1.jlokier.co.uk> References: <20030214024046.GA18214@bjl1.jlokier.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1654 Lines: 47 Davide Libenzi wrote: > > And when that's done you have some nice bonuses: > > > > - All event types are reported equally fast, and in a single > > system call (read()). > > > > - The order in which events occurred is preserved. > > (This is lost when you have to scan multiple queues). > > > > - Hierarchies of event sets of any kind are possible. > > (epoll has solved the logical problems of this already). > > > > - Less code duplicated. > > > > - Adding new kinds of kernel events becomes _very_ simple. > > Hmm ... using read() you'll lose the timeout capability, that IMHO is > pretty nice. Very good point. Timeouts could be events too - probably a good idea as they can then be absolute, relative, attached to different system clocks (monotonic vs. timeofday). I think the POSIX timer work is like that. It seems like a good idea to be able to attach one timeout event in the same system call as the event_read call itself - because it is _so_ common to vary the expiry time every time. Then again, it is also extremely common to write this: gettimeofday(...) // calculate time until next application timer expires. // Note also race condition here, if we're preempted. read_events(..., next_app_time - timeofday) // we need to know the current time. gettimeofday(...) So perhaps the current select/poll/epoll timeout method is not particularly optimal as it is? -- Jamie - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/