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From: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>
To: "Vlad@geekizoid.com" <vlad@geekizoid.com>
Cc: "'Jamie Lokier'" <jamie@shareable.org>, "'Larry McVoy'" <lm@bitmover.com>,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
       "'Davide Libenzi'" <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:40:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RE: openbkweb-0.0
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Vlad@geekizoid.com wrote:

> How much bandwidth are we talking about here, actually?  I could share SOME
> of this burden.

I don't really know, the only figured mentioned is Larry's $15K/month for
the bandwidth that is probably high to begin with, but may end up being
low in the long term.

I think the only way to really tell will be to set it up and measure it.

David Lang


> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of David Lang
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:14 PM
> To: Davide Libenzi
> Cc: Jamie Lokier; Larry McVoy; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: openbkweb-0.0
>
>
> anyone who wants to can setup a bitkeeper server, set it to sync with
> bkbits.net every 5 min and re-export the data (including the SCCS
> formatted metadata) any way they want. Larry has even encouraged people to
> do this.
>
> what he is refusing to do is to pay the cash for the bandwith to support
> this.
>
> I'll volunteer to run such a server so that you purists don't have to get
> your hands dirty by touching bitkeeper, as long as someone else is paying
> the bandwidth and hosting costs (and I'm not requiring a colo facility,
> someone's house with appropriate bandwidth is good enough for me. I'm
> willing to cut any corners that can be cut to keep it cheap)
>
> David Lang
>
>
>  On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Davide Libenzi wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:05:08 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
> > To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
> > Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: Re: openbkweb-0.0
> >
> > On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> >
> > > Larry McVoy wrote:
> > > > But nobody seems willing to stand up and say "well, maybe if we hadn't
> been
> > > > stealing all this music these laws might not have come into
> existence".
> > > >
> > > > I'll leave you to make the BitKeeper connection, I'm sure you are
> smart
> > > > enough to do so.
> > >
> > > On this we agree.  Point well made!
> > >
> > > The best thing for all may be a huge whip round to pay Bitmover enough
> > > for them to be _happy_ to open the protocol.
> >
> > IMHO, Larry does not even need to "open the protocol". He could simply
> > release a tool with limited functionalities under a different license.
> > Wrong ?
> >
> >
> >
> > > Anyone want to start a fund?  I offer to donate US$100 (and that's 2
> > > weeks income for me ATM).
> >
> > You might want to pass the above text through 'sed' using s/weeks/hours/
> :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Davide
> >
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