Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 22:52:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 22:52:33 -0500 Received: from x35.xmailserver.org ([208.129.208.51]:42635 "EHLO x35.xmailserver.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 22:52:32 -0500 X-AuthUser: davidel@xmailserver.org Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:09:34 -0800 (PST) From: Davide Libenzi X-X-Sender: davide@blue1.dev.mcafeelabs.com To: Jamie Lokier cc: Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Synchronous signal delivery.. In-Reply-To: <20030215020838.GH4333@bjl1.jlokier.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <20030214024046.GA18214@bjl1.jlokier.co.uk> <20030215010153.GE4333@bjl1.jlokier.co.uk> <20030215020838.GH4333@bjl1.jlokier.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1673 Lines: 44 On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Davide Libenzi wrote: > > > Then again, it is also extremely common to write this: > > > > > > gettimeofday(...) > > > // calculate time until next application timer expires. > > > // Note also race condition here, if we're preempted. > > > read_events(..., next_app_time - timeofday) > > > // we need to know the current time. > > > gettimeofday(...) > > > > > > So perhaps the current select/poll/epoll timeout method is not > > > particularly optimal as it is? > > > > What's bad in epoll_wait() to get events from all pollable descriptors ? > > Nothing wrong with that. It's the "relative to now" timeout argument > that is a bit racy, and the fact that you need a gettimeofday() system > call just before - every time - _purely_ to calculate the time until > the next application timer event. > > If you must have a separate system call every time round your event > loop, it may as well set up a timerfd and let that be another pollable > descriptor. > > In which case, read() is just fine for getting events :) Many ( many ) times, when you're going to wait for events, you want to specify a maximum wait time ( reletive time ) and not an absolute time. This is how ppl think about "timeouts". Different beast is the absolute timer, that you can easily achieve with POSIX timers ( TIMER_ABSTIME ) and a sigfd() dropped inside an event retrieval interface. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/