Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:28:23 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:28:22 -0500 Received: from smtp-102.nerim.net ([62.4.16.102]:51468 "EHLO kraid.nerim.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:28:21 -0500 To: Larry McVoy Cc: Nicolas Pitre , lkml Subject: Re: openbkweb-0.0 References: <20030214235724.GA24139@work.bitmover.com> <20030215181211.GA12315@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Copies-To: nobody From: kilobug@freesurf.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Ga=EBl?= Le Mignot) Organization: HurdFr - http://hurdfr.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1F2C 9804 7505 79DF 95E6 7323 B66B F67B 7103 C5DA Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:42:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20030215181211.GA12315@work.bitmover.com> (Larry McVoy's message of "Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:12:11 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i386-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2083 Lines: 40 > One answer, maybe the only viable answer, is to use patents to protect > our technology. To date we've been very sparing in where we have done > that, there are substantial chunks of BK without patent protection. Some > leaders in the kernel group have privately told me to not ship BK without > patent protection. That slows down how fast you get a better BK, it's not > something we can just wave our hands and make be so, it's lots of time and > money. A single patent costs more than enough bandwidth to keep all of > you happy for a year. Whatever. If you guys can't come to some sort > of consensus, then patents are the route we'll choose, even German law > respects patents. European law, for now, doesn't allow software patents. For the same reason that we have a right of fair use, and a right of reverse engineering. We value freedom more than money. Maybe this will change, but it'ld be the worse thing that could happen to whole Free Software movement - and even to the Open Source movement, and to most companies that do non-free software too. You should speak to lawyer before saying such false statements. By threating to use patents to prevent us for ever using the same idea as you do (even if they grew up in our own minds), you've just added a last proof to the fact that you don't care at all about Free Software, and even Open Source or the Linux kernel, but just care about the money you can earn. This is your right, but don't ask us to follow your rules then. Since you are _not_ on our side. -- Gael Le Mignot "Kilobug" - kilobug@nerim.net - http://kilobug.free.fr GSM : 06.71.47.18.22 (in France) ICQ UIN : 7299959 Fingerprint : 1F2C 9804 7505 79DF 95E6 7323 B66B F67B 7103 C5DA Member of HurdFr: http://hurdfr.org - The GNU Hurd: http://hurd.gnu.org - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/