Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:39:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:39:01 -0500 Received: from adsl-63-195-162-81.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net ([63.195.162.81]:24845 "EHLO master.linux-ide.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:38:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:38:19 -0800 (PST) From: Andre Hedrick To: Dennis cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux stifles innovation... In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010217150612.0390d950@mail.etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > good commercial drivers dont need fixing. another point. You are arguing > that having source is required to fix crappy code, which i agree with. > > You "guys" like to have source, and there is nothing wrong with that. But > requiring that all code be distributed as source DOES stifle innovation. > Its as simple as that. And when your customer gets screw because you refuse to update your binary driver because you do not know or have had the chance to follow any evolving API, you are going to blame us in OPEN source, right. Meanwhile the API changes may have boosted the performance factor and you have screw yourself and customer base because you are to lame to see the value of open source. Some time ago I proposed CLAPI, and you are one of the venders that would benefit from such a beast. This model would have required you to LGPL a kernel library that would have all the functional IP (that is not IP) that is to lame to be placed into the hardware. If your hardware is so flakey that you have to pump/prime it for operations....well....you get the point. If I recall you and your company on one of the worst offenders of taking code (GPL or not) and changing it and putting it out as binaries. I am surprized that you have not been taken down yet. Then if someone asks for the return of the code base and changes because they can under the terms of the license that you removed from that code, you charge them a fee and suggest actionable terms if any disclosure into the public form from where it came. Regards, Andre Hedrick Linux ATA Development - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/